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a16z Podcast: On Government as Software Builder, Not Just Buyer

Mikey Dickerson and Haley Van Dyck

Posted July 13, 2016

We already know that the government is one of the largest IT buyers, but in many ways it is also an IT builder. Especially for areas where the government is doing something that no one else is doing, like running Medicare and Social Security — i.e., unique services no other company out there is building software for. That’s where the USDS comes in. Now almost two years old, the United States Digital Service is “a startup at the White House” responsible for mission-critical, citizen-facing services like improving Veterans’ Affairs healthcare applications and benefits claims appeals, student loan repayments, and so on.

But can one really operate as a startup while embedded in an entity as complex and huge — remember, each agency would be like a Fortune 500 company — as government? It may not move as fast and break things, observes Mikey Dickerson, Google engineer-turned-administrator of the USDS (and one of the fixers of the original healthcare.gov), but, “There’s a world of difference between moving a little slower than you’re used to and not moving at all.” And it’s not like large companies don’t have huge, bureaucratic structures either. In fact, argues USDS co-founder and deputy administrator Haley Van Dyck, both government and big companies are going through the exact same shift right now, one where technology is moving “from what used to be the periphery into the core mission of business”.

So what are the similarities and differences between operating in government vs. big companies? How to draw talent from the private sector into the public sector while avoiding adverse selection? (Hint: through tours of duty.) And finally, what about fixing the procurement process, because “you don’t buy software the same way you would buy a battleship”? Dickerson and Van Dyck share their thoughts on these issues, as well as peacetime/wartime tactics in managing them, in this episode of the a16z Podcast.

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